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So much in this. Terrifically interesting.

The thread of epistemic attitude is important and, I am conscious, is to be revealed further next time. But I wonder whether epistemic confidence needs to be unbounded for the dynamics you outline to exist. Confidence in things being more knowable via a direction of intellectual is different to confidence that things are ultimately knowable - especially in a holistic way. I wonder also whether some other important factors are at play. A drive for efficiency, for example, leads to the use of algorithmic tools even when we know the resulting answers will be substantially wrong some of the time. The requirement of accuracy is limited to being mostly right often enough to be efficient in a utilitarian sense.

The interaction between society and the individual might also be worth exploring. It is not clear that our confidence in controllability rests deeply at an individual level - indeed I wonder whether it is an acceptance of individual uncontrollability that creates the demand we see for books and governments which offer a path towards more controllability. This is an inherently democratic dynamic, which exists all societies (democratic or not). It is in the interests of 'the people' that governments all types respond actively to this demand. But with that positive comes negatives. One is the offer of false levels of control at a point of time, if not through time. Another, which is related, is the outsourcing of responsibility for managing individual uncontrollability to society.

Your good character versus competence basis reference is fascinating. I suspect it is true that ancient writings (Confucius, Plato etc) emphasised character over competence. Whether that reflected how society actually operated is less clear (to me at least). Both are clearly important. I dare say Confucius' superior man and Plato's philosopher king were intended to be of good character and good competence. For what it is worth, my read of societal direction today is that character is strongly reasserting itself as a demanded quality, even if this is expressing differently in China (social credit) and the West (me too, amongst others). I know this is not the main thrust of your discussion, but thought it was an interesting side path.

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